# "old" open orders are returning pending\_cancel during market hours

**URL:** <https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/old-open-orders-are-returning-pending-cancel-during-market-hours/2575>\
**Category:** Alpaca Account Troubleshooting\
**Created:** [September 8, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/old-open-orders-are-returning-pending-cancel-during-market-hours/2575 "2020-09-08T17:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![quarantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/cc9497/32.png) [@quarantine](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/quarantine)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/old-open-orders-are-returning-pending-cancel-during-market-hours/2575/1 "2020-09-08T17:34:49Z")

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New issue for me with Paper today is that `pending_cancel` is showing up during market hours. Until today, it only occurred outside of market hours and extended hours.

`/orders?status=open&limit=500`

I’m seeing extended\_hours orders from 09/05 showing up as `pending_cancel` during market hours today.

Is this new behavior, a bug, or is it somehow that I missed seeing this until today?

With the behavior as is, is it safe to assume that the extended\_hours will be “instantly cancelled” in the next extended hours session (pre or after market)? If not, I guess the best approach is to (attempt to) cancel all orders a few minutes before the end an extended hours session so that the market session is not blocked from trading. I want to avoid over-selling at a specific limit price related to extended and market hours orders being duplicates.

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**Author:** ![quarantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/cc9497/32.png) [@quarantine](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/quarantine)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/old-open-orders-are-returning-pending-cancel-during-market-hours/2575/2 "2020-09-08T21:25:18Z")

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Update: The same orders remain stuck as `pending_cancel` even in extended hours.

```auto
aefa66ef-1238-4115-94f2-8241a8e545ff MSFT BUY 1 213.15 9/6/2020 2:37:55 AM
4a3caac7-f4be-485e-932d-8ad7c05e4823 MSFT SELL 10 219.6 9/5/2020 5:47:53 AM
d9852d62-5790-4bdf-b1fc-75c226478425 TSLA SELL 10 493.7 9/6/2020 2:37:55 AM

```

Using the web UI, these orders do not display in `https://app.alpaca.markets/paper/dashboard/orders`.

When I click `Cancel All Open Orders`, they are listed in the `Order Cancellation Submitted`.

The button then grays out. When I create a new order, the button lights up and invoking the button again lists the new order and those same 3.

Apparently a backend issue with those orders being stuck?