# "Notional increment does not fulfill minimum pricing criteria"

**URL:** <https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844>\
**Category:** Alpaca Trading\
**Created:** [September 5, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844 "2023-09-05T18:41:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![sonny8huang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@sonny8huang](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/sonny8huang)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/1 "2023-09-05T18:41:32Z")

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Hi,  
What happened to my Paper account PA3OO9O0B0DG, keep getting order rejections fractional trades “Status Code : 422” “Notional increment does not fulfill minimum pricing criteria”, but my live account with same software works fine?

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/dan_whitnable_alpaca/32/1658_2.png) [@Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/Dan_Whitnable_Alpaca)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/2 "2023-09-06T13:18:31Z")

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> [@sonny8huang](#):
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> Notional increment does not fulfill minimum pricing criteria

@sonny8huang In general the paper and live environments will behave similarly. What is the notional amount and asset you are trying to order? That would be a good place to start debugging the issue.

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**Author:** ![sonny8huang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@sonny8huang](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/sonny8huang)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/3 "2023-09-06T14:47:59Z")

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“Status Code: 422, Status Message: "Unprocessable Entity", API Response Code: 42210000, API Response Message: "notional 135.68941440804, increment does not fulfill minimum pricing criteria"”,

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/dan_whitnable_alpaca/32/1658_2.png) [@Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/Dan_Whitnable_Alpaca)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/4 "2023-09-06T14:59:55Z")

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@sonny8huang It looks like you are specifying the notional amount to 11 decimals (ie 135.68941440804). Both `notional` and `qty` fields can only be specified up to 9 decimal places. (check out the [docs here](https://alpaca.markets/docs/trading/fractional-trading/#fractional-trading)). Round or truncate your value to 9 decimals and it should work.

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**Author:** ![sonny8huang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@sonny8huang](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/sonny8huang)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/5 "2023-09-06T15:26:01Z")

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Thx will change it…however same trading in Live account has no issue tho

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/dan_whitnable_alpaca/32/1658_2.png) [@Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/Dan_Whitnable_Alpaca)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/6 "2023-09-06T15:30:19Z")

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@sonny8huang Live and Paper have the same 9 decimal place requirement. Do you have an order number of an example in live where you were able to specify the notional value to more than 9 decimals?

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**Author:** ![sonny8huang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@sonny8huang](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/sonny8huang)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/7 "2023-09-06T15:38:17Z")

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9ef2af63-c6b5-4111-b9bd-60a6679b853b

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/dan_whitnable_alpaca/32/1658_2.png) [@Dan\_Whitnable\_Alpaca](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/Dan_Whitnable_Alpaca)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/8 "2023-09-06T19:38:00Z")

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@sonny8huang The logs show that order 9ef2af63-c6b5-4111-b9bd-60a6679b853b was a notional order for 8.77. It was correctly specified to 9 digits or less.

```auto
 httplog POST /api/v2/orders status_code:200
 body {symbol:SQQQ, side:buy, type:market, time_in_force:day, notional:8.77}

```

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**Author:** ![sonny8huang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@sonny8huang](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/sonny8huang)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/notional-increment-does-not-fulfill-minimum-pricing-criteria/12844/9 "2023-09-06T20:10:28Z")

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Ok, Thx a lot, I will try to correct it on my side any way!