# Live trading for European citizens

**URL:** <https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584>\
**Category:** Alpaca Trading\
**Created:** [December 28, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584 "2019-12-28T11:14:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![skyfold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/skyfold/32/322_2.png) [@skyfold](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/skyfold)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584/1 "2019-12-28T11:14:17Z")

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Hi guys!  
Just to know if we can count on Alpaca for us, Europeans, to open a live account? For now, I can only test in paper trading mode a few simple algos with a minimum performance.  
Happy New Year to all of you and Alpaca!  
Skyfold

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**Author:** ![Chapapa270Poto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/chapapa270poto/32/620_2.png) [@Chapapa270Poto](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/Chapapa270Poto)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584/2 "2020-04-13T20:36:31Z")

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Hi,

Have you gotten any answer/solution about Europeans being able to use 0-fee brokers such as Alpaca?

I would also be interested in knowing if Alpaca was to come to Europe and when, or otherwise how did you manage and through which institution have you decided to send your orders.

Thanks,  
Gautier

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**Author:** ![Ren\_Z](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/ren_z/32/1759_2.png) [@Ren\_Z](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/Ren_Z)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584/3 "2020-12-23T18:49:19Z")

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Hey,

any update on this? I’d rather use Alpaca for it’s simplicity, but it’s not available…

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**Author:** ![gelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/gelie/32/1973_2.png) [@gelie](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/gelie)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 10:53am UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584/4 "2021-02-02T10:53:37Z")

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I am from South Africa, but live trading is not available ☹

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**Author:** ![skyfold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/skyfold/32/322_2.png) [@skyfold](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/skyfold)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584/5 "2021-02-02T13:28:30Z")

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Hi Gautier,  
Unfortunately, no. They are very protective of their market. But via other posts, I got the idea that you can if you open an account with a minimum of 30,000 Euros.  
All the best!

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Bohne\_Alpaca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/jason_bohne_alpaca/32/1104_2.png) [@Jason\_Bohne\_Alpaca](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/Jason_Bohne_Alpaca)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/live-trading-for-european-citizens/584/6 "2021-02-02T15:03:05Z")

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Hey @gelie @skyfold

More information concerning Non-US Resident Alpaca Users can be found on the following blog page.

> **[Non-US Resident Live Trading Account - Invite-Only Program](https://alpaca.markets/blog/non-us-live-trading-beta/)**
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> Letting you know that we have started an invite-only beta program for non-US resident Alpaca users to open live-trading accounts ✌️.

Hope this helps,  
Jason