# American in Germany - W9

**URL:** <https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/american-in-germany-w9/7505>\
**Category:** Getting Started with Alpaca\
**Created:** [November 21, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/american-in-germany-w9/7505 "2021-11-21T19:53:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![traderjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f9ae1b/32.png) [@traderjoe](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/traderjoe)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/american-in-germany-w9/7505/1 "2021-11-21T19:53:37Z")

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I’m a US citizen living in Germany, thus a German tax resident. While signing up, I am asked to enter my German tax id number, and to sign a W-8BEN, which states “Do not use this if you are a US citizen,” and where, as a US citizen, I am directed to instead use a W9. Also I’m asked to certify that I am not a US person. How can I sign up and submit the correct forms?

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**Author:** ![erskingardner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.alpaca.markets/erskingardner/32/3920_2.png) [@erskingardner](https://forum.alpaca.markets/u/erskingardner)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/american-in-germany-w9/7505/2 "2022-03-22T07:13:51Z")

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@traderjoe Did you ever figure this out? I’m having the same issue. [Signup forcing me to sign a W-8BEN but I'm US citizen](https://forum.alpaca.markets/t/signup-forcing-me-to-sign-a-w-8ben-but-im-us-citizen/8800)